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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Simon Dickson</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37727</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 16:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might seem a bit weird... but even though I&#039;ve still got a copy of said document &lt;em&gt;(isn&#039;t version control great!)&lt;/em&gt;, I&#039;m not going to post it online, or send it to anyone.

Given that I do so much work in and around government, I&#039;ve known this was on the cards for some time. If I&#039;d been wanting to &#039;break the news&#039;, I&#039;d have done so months ago. I only wrote the article now because the document had been posted in a public space (specifically, Github).

If the document has now been pulled, then it&#039;s been pulled for a reason. And I&#039;m going to respect that. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might seem a bit weird... but even though I've still got a copy of said document <em>(isn't version control great!)</em>, I'm not going to post it online, or send it to anyone.</p>
<p>Given that I do so much work in and around government, I've known this was on the cards for some time. If I'd been wanting to 'break the news', I'd have done so months ago. I only wrote the article now because the document had been posted in a public space (specifically, Github).</p>
<p>If the document has now been pulled, then it's been pulled for a reason. And I'm going to respect that. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37724</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice the PDF file has disappeared now! Any chance you could upload or email it, it seems like it would be worth a look. (Or a grimace...)

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice the PDF file has disappeared now! Any chance you could upload or email it, it seems like it would be worth a look. (Or a grimace...)</p>
<p> <img src='http://puffbox.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Tony Scott</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37723</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 12:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Telegraph carried Simon&#039;s story but without credit http://www.demsoc.org/blog/2012/05/09/government-logo-pseudo-scandal-rent-a-quote-but-dont-give-credit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Telegraph carried Simon's story but without credit <a href="http://www.demsoc.org/blog/2012/05/09/government-logo-pseudo-scandal-rent-a-quote-but-dont-give-credit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.demsoc.org/blog/2012/05/09/government-logo-pseudo-scandal-rent-a-quote-but-dont-give-credit/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Tony Scott</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37722</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 11:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mark 

I wouldn&#039;t agree the design is boring.

I think the current system is confusing, wastes money, and does not represent a unified government brand strategy.

It appears the graphics were (presumably) part of a proposal,for new logos, and not the final version that will used, were more documentation will required in a connected style guide.

For an example of a full style guide see http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/12523.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mark </p>
<p>I wouldn't agree the design is boring.</p>
<p>I think the current system is confusing, wastes money, and does not represent a unified government brand strategy.</p>
<p>It appears the graphics were (presumably) part of a proposal,for new logos, and not the final version that will used, were more documentation will required in a connected style guide.</p>
<p>For an example of a full style guide see <a href="http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/12523.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/12523.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Justin</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37715</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 21:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clever communication and political move. Australia did something similar in 2002 from memory. Every department shares a common &#039;Australian Government&#039; brand which by default, changes the emphasis and perception of initiatives from departmental to overarching government initiatives. Comes in handy, particularly if budgets are tight and you&#039;re facing an election at some point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever communication and political move. Australia did something similar in 2002 from memory. Every department shares a common 'Australian Government' brand which by default, changes the emphasis and perception of initiatives from departmental to overarching government initiatives. Comes in handy, particularly if budgets are tight and you're facing an election at some point...</p>
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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Mark Strong</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37714</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boring, boring, boring. 

What&#039;s wrong with different departments having some individual distinction to their logos, especially if they highlight their core work (e.g. Culture)?

And I note they can&#039;t even get the names correct. The Department FOR Transport is wrongly called the Department OF Transport in the pdf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boring, boring, boring. </p>
<p>What's wrong with different departments having some individual distinction to their logos, especially if they highlight their core work (e.g. Culture)?</p>
<p>And I note they can't even get the names correct. The Department FOR Transport is wrongly called the Department OF Transport in the pdf.</p>
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		<title>Comment on WordCamp 2012: sleeper service to Scotland, anyone? by Rikki Tooley</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/09/wordcamp-2012-sleeper-service-to-scotland-anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-37713</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikki Tooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interested - though I&#039;m based in Bristol. Any southwesterners about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested - though I'm based in Bristol. Any southwesterners about?</p>
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		<title>Comment on WordCamp 2012: sleeper service to Scotland, anyone? by Steve Taylor</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/09/wordcamp-2012-sleeper-service-to-scotland-anyone/comment-page-1/#comment-37709</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 18:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m up for it! Already doing one domestic flight this year so the train would be good. Definitely count me in - email me if you&#039;re sorting this out off the web...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm up for it! Already doing one domestic flight this year so the train would be good. Definitely count me in - email me if you're sorting this out off the web...</p>
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		<title>Comment on New logos for all government departments by Tony Scott</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/05/08/new-logos-for-all-government-departments/comment-page-1/#comment-37699</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well spotted Simon.

A sensible move, and I generally like the look and simplicity and logic of the scheme.

However, I think the use of Gills San would be better, partly because it&#039;s currently used in a quite a number of government logos.

I also think that Union Flag needs sorting out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well spotted Simon.</p>
<p>A sensible move, and I generally like the look and simplicity and logic of the scheme.</p>
<p>However, I think the use of Gills San would be better, partly because it's currently used in a quite a number of government logos.</p>
<p>I also think that Union Flag needs sorting out...</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five Years by Jonnya</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2012/04/12/my-brain-hurts-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-37600</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonnya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations both - and all the very best for the future;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations both - and all the very best for the future;)</p>
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