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	<title>Comments on: No10 e-petition on abandoning IE6</title>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2010/02/03/no10-e-petition-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To which the answer, as you well know Paul, is &#039;wrong&#039;. :)

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s right to see this purely as a financial thing: but that&#039;s how some (many?) people work, so let&#039;s do that for a moment. Of course there&#039;s an associated cost in upgrading. But there&#039;s a cost, potentially huge, in &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; upgrading. Put bluntly, you don&#039;t want to be the department whose entire network gets compromised by an IE6 vulnerability.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://secunia.com/advisories/graph/?type=sol&amp;period=all&amp;prod=11&quot; alt=&quot;IE6 security holes&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To which the answer, as you well know Paul, is 'wrong'. <img src='http://puffbox.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don't think it's right to see this purely as a financial thing: but that's how some (many?) people work, so let's do that for a moment. Of course there's an associated cost in upgrading. But there's a cost, potentially huge, in <i>not</i> upgrading. Put bluntly, you don't want to be the department whose entire network gets compromised by an IE6 vulnerability.</p>
<p><img src="http://secunia.com/advisories/graph/?type=sol&#038;period=all&#038;prod=11" alt="IE6 security holes" /></p>
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		<title>By: PaulJ</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2010/02/03/no10-e-petition-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenny McDermott wrote - &quot;I&#039;m not sure how upgrading to IE 7 or 8 would affect anyone&#039;s pay as both browsers are free.&quot;

Obviously the cost of rollout itself is slight, as it could be pushed via Windows update in most cases, however I really ment the cost of testing and changing existing internal web-based systems, which whether right or wrong, only work in IE6 currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny McDermott wrote - "I'm not sure how upgrading to IE 7 or 8 would affect anyone's pay as both browsers are free."</p>
<p>Obviously the cost of rollout itself is slight, as it could be pushed via Windows update in most cases, however I really ment the cost of testing and changing existing internal web-based systems, which whether right or wrong, only work in IE6 currently.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny McDermott</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2010/02/03/no10-e-petition-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulJ wrote - &quot;at a time when budgets are looking to be cut especially in the public sector, I would rather have IE6 and a pay rise than IE7/8 and no pay rise.&quot;

I&#039;m not sure how upgrading to IE 7 or 8 would affect anyone&#039;s pay as both browsers are free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulJ wrote - "at a time when budgets are looking to be cut especially in the public sector, I would rather have IE6 and a pay rise than IE7/8 and no pay rise."</p>
<p>I'm not sure how upgrading to IE 7 or 8 would affect anyone's pay as both browsers are free.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulJ</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2010/02/03/no10-e-petition-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with the petition (especially working for one of the departments in question), Googles stance on this worries me in that the are now determining what browser a customer  can and can&#039;t use, not based on volume of use (if it was, they should be dropping support for everything but IE8 and Firefox - including Chrome ironically), but because its &#039;too difficult&#039; for them to code around it. Presumably we are only a couple of years away from them only supporting Chrome, as that will be the only one to do things the way that they want.
As this petition shows, it is largely people not in control of their browsers using IE6, and at a time when budgets are looking to be cut especially in the public sector, I would rather have IE6 and a pay rise than IE7/8 and no pay rise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the petition (especially working for one of the departments in question), Googles stance on this worries me in that the are now determining what browser a customer  can and can't use, not based on volume of use (if it was, they should be dropping support for everything but IE8 and Firefox - including Chrome ironically), but because its 'too difficult' for them to code around it. Presumably we are only a couple of years away from them only supporting Chrome, as that will be the only one to do things the way that they want.<br />
As this petition shows, it is largely people not in control of their browsers using IE6, and at a time when budgets are looking to be cut especially in the public sector, I would rather have IE6 and a pay rise than IE7/8 and no pay rise.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Scott</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2010/02/03/no10-e-petition-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree on your points Simon, but it&#039;s important as many as possible sign the petition.

If only for own sanity when buildng sites - IE6 must die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree on your points Simon, but it's important as many as possible sign the petition.</p>
<p>If only for own sanity when buildng sites - IE6 must die!</p>
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