Comments on: Commentable Coalition plan http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/ Adventures in government, politics and open source. Mostly WordPress-related. Fri, 11 May 2012 16:17:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jenny Poole http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2370 Jenny Poole Wed, 26 May 2010 11:42:20 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2370 Yes, moderated hashtag comments would be key. It will be interesting to see the direction civil service moderation policy goes in when large scale engagement probably means you are more likely to get politial comments. Yes, moderated hashtag comments would be key.

It will be interesting to see the direction civil service moderation policy goes in when large scale engagement probably means you are more likely to get politial comments.

]]> By: Steph Gray http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2369 Steph Gray Tue, 25 May 2010 19:29:35 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2369 Where's the InDesign XML connector got to these days? It feels like that's the most promising avenue here for extracting accurate marked-up text from a typeset document, and I've not seen the output from that for a couple of years now. Back then, it was risible, but things move on. Harry's code which Joss refers to is open source of course, so if long commentable documents seem to be here to stay, maybe it's worth someone revisiting that project. Sadly, I don't get to fund that kind of innovation any more :-( Where's the InDesign XML connector got to these days? It feels like that's the most promising avenue here for extracting accurate marked-up text from a typeset document, and I've not seen the output from that for a couple of years now. Back then, it was risible, but things move on.

Harry's code which Joss refers to is open source of course, so if long commentable documents seem to be here to stay, maybe it's worth someone revisiting that project. Sadly, I don't get to fund that kind of innovation any more :-(

]]> By: Simon http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2367 Simon Tue, 25 May 2010 10:51:36 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2367 I certainly wouldn't advocate unmoderated inclusion of tweets as comments. Bring them into WordPress as normal comments, and subject them to the very same moderation process. I certainly wouldn't advocate unmoderated inclusion of tweets as comments. Bring them into WordPress as normal comments, and subject them to the very same moderation process.

]]> By: Simon Everest http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2366 Simon Everest Tue, 25 May 2010 10:48:10 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2366 Jenny/Simon - I might be misunderstanding you, but isn't auto-inclusion of hashtags what got the Telegraph into a spot of bother with their budget coverage last year? http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/21/telegraph-twitter-budget-twitterfall-embarrassment http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/22/cash-gordon-twitter-tories Simon Jenny/Simon - I might be misunderstanding you, but isn't auto-inclusion of hashtags what got the Telegraph into a spot of bother with their budget coverage last year?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/21/telegraph-twitter-budget-twitterfall-embarrassment
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/22/cash-gordon-twitter-tories

Simon

]]> By: Simon http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2364 Simon Tue, 25 May 2010 09:43:49 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2364 Tim: Might be a DNS issue. As an emergency measure, the URL was redirected to a Directgov page for a couple of days. Like a lot of browsers, Chrome keeps its own cache of address lookups; so it may not be checking to see if the DNS has changed. See <a href="http://blog.ultranurd.net/2009/01/22/chrome-dns-caching/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Jenny: It's certainly possible, although I've never heard of anyone doing it (yet). And if someone out there is interested in sponsoring the development of such a plugin... ;) Joss: Believe me, I tried half a dozen methods - but in the end, I resorted to copying and pasting. None of the export options were producing readily usable plain text, so some manual processing was going to be necessary, whatever happened. There might have been a perfect tech solution out there; but finding it was going to take longer than just rolling up the sleeves, and getting on with it. Anyway, I'm old-skool. There's little I can't achieve with a plain text file and a search-and-replace function. Tim: Might be a DNS issue. As an emergency measure, the URL was redirected to a Directgov page for a couple of days. Like a lot of browsers, Chrome keeps its own cache of address lookups; so it may not be checking to see if the DNS has changed. See here.

Jenny: It's certainly possible, although I've never heard of anyone doing it (yet). And if someone out there is interested in sponsoring the development of such a plugin... ;)

Joss: Believe me, I tried half a dozen methods - but in the end, I resorted to copying and pasting. None of the export options were producing readily usable plain text, so some manual processing was going to be necessary, whatever happened. There might have been a perfect tech solution out there; but finding it was going to take longer than just rolling up the sleeves, and getting on with it.

Anyway, I'm old-skool. There's little I can't achieve with a plain text file and a search-and-replace function.

]]> By: Joss Winn http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2363 Joss Winn Tue, 25 May 2010 09:21:25 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2363 Extracting the text from the PDF can be excruciating although different PDF viewers can make the job a little easier. Adobe Reader allows you to save a PDF as plain text, which can be very useful. I think the PDF viewer with OS X allows you to select columns of text rather than select across the whole page, too. It's worth experimenting. The Consultation XML software is worth a look, too: http://thedextrousweb.com/our-work/consultationxml/ Extracting the text from the PDF can be excruciating although different PDF viewers can make the job a little easier. Adobe Reader allows you to save a PDF as plain text, which can be very useful. I think the PDF viewer with OS X allows you to select columns of text rather than select across the whole page, too. It's worth experimenting. The Consultation XML software is worth a look, too: http://thedextrousweb.com/our-work/consultationxml/

]]> By: Jenny Poole http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2362 Jenny Poole Tue, 25 May 2010 09:21:05 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2362 It was interesting that when the site went down quite a few people starting discussions on twitter, especially around the bit about badgers (!) Out of interest is there a way to integrate comments around a specific hashtag onto WP? It was interesting that when the site went down quite a few people starting discussions on twitter, especially around the bit about badgers (!) Out of interest is there a way to integrate comments around a specific hashtag onto WP?

]]> By: Tim Swift http://puffbox.com/2010/05/25/commentable-coalition-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2361 Tim Swift Tue, 25 May 2010 09:17:42 +0000 http://puffbox.com/?p=2029#comment-2361 Interestingly, though, the link to it from directgov does not seem to work in Google Chrome - unless I'm doing something wrong. It does work on the same PC in INternet Explorer. Good looking site and interesting piece of work. Interestingly, though, the link to it from directgov does not seem to work in Google Chrome - unless I'm doing something wrong. It does work on the same PC in INternet Explorer. Good looking site and interesting piece of work.

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