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	<title>Comments on: Delicious list of UK gov 2.0</title>
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	<description>Simon Dickson blogs about online news, e-government and the New Politics. Some important people read it.</description>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steph: I&#039;ve been testing a few over the last few weeks and Magnolia looks like the only viable hosted option at the moment.  All other useful ones are install-it-yourself.

It would be great to keep such things in the UK (and so subject to our laws!) but Nature&#039;s Connotea displays eye-tests, which I feel discriminates against visually-impaired people (is that allowed under DDA? If not, why do so many UK sites do it?  If only these sites were subject to UK laws(!)).

I remembered seeing http://tom.acrewoods.net/blog/2006/sep/green-party-motion-boycott-google-yahoo-and-micros but I doubt that particular motion got passed (can&#039;t find any record of it). That there are enough Green supporters even to get such a motion debated seriously at conference should make people stop and think before using their tools for UK politics - and presumably discourage those pesky greens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steph: I've been testing a few over the last few weeks and Magnolia looks like the only viable hosted option at the moment.  All other useful ones are install-it-yourself.</p>
<p>It would be great to keep such things in the UK (and so subject to our laws!) but Nature's Connotea displays eye-tests, which I feel discriminates against visually-impaired people (is that allowed under DDA? If not, why do so many UK sites do it?  If only these sites were subject to UK laws(!)).</p>
<p>I remembered seeing <a href="http://tom.acrewoods.net/blog/2006/sep/green-party-motion-boycott-google-yahoo-and-micros" rel="nofollow">http://tom.acrewoods.net/blog/2006/sep/green-party-motion-boycott-google-yahoo-and-micros</a> but I doubt that particular motion got passed (can't find any record of it). That there are enough Green supporters even to get such a motion debated seriously at conference should make people stop and think before using their tools for UK politics - and presumably discourage those pesky greens.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-2003</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MJ: OK, help me understand the options here, &#039;cos I&#039;m genuinely open to ideas and I don&#039;t mind if I use a tool owned by Yahoo, Google or the open source community as long as it works and people can use it.

What service(s) could we use instead of Delicious to achieve the same or better result? Magnolia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MJ: OK, help me understand the options here, 'cos I'm genuinely open to ideas and I don't mind if I use a tool owned by Yahoo, Google or the open source community as long as it works and people can use it.</p>
<p>What service(s) could we use instead of Delicious to achieve the same or better result? Magnolia?</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I can read but not write. I could combine Steph&#039;s efforts with an open API system, but I think my efforts are unlikely to rank above Steph&#039;s in the gov.uk space any time soon, so I&#039;ll do something more effective.

So, to summarise: I was asked if I &quot;Fancy contributing something using the Delicious API so people can contribute via the open web?&quot; and the answer appears to be &quot;I fancy it, but only someone who accepts Yahoo&#039;s terms can do it&quot;.

Why do lead digitalgovuk people keep using these tied services?  They may be cool if you can access them, but I think the reasons not to do it are similar to the reasons we don&#039;t hold council meetings in pubs or cigarette factories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I can read but not write. I could combine Steph's efforts with an open API system, but I think my efforts are unlikely to rank above Steph's in the gov.uk space any time soon, so I'll do something more effective.</p>
<p>So, to summarise: I was asked if I "Fancy contributing something using the Delicious API so people can contribute via the open web?" and the answer appears to be "I fancy it, but only someone who accepts Yahoo's terms can do it".</p>
<p>Why do lead digitalgovuk people keep using these tied services?  They may be cool if you can access them, but I think the reasons not to do it are similar to the reasons we don't hold council meetings in pubs or cigarette factories.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-1993</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s strictly true, MJ... if you count RSS feeds as being &#039;an API&#039; (and that&#039;s a whole other argument I don&#039;t want to start here). You should be able to access the &lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.delicious.com/v2/rss/tag/digitalgovuk?count=3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RSS feed for Steph&#039;s digitalgovuk tag&lt;/a&gt; without having to sign up; although of course, that&#039;s read-only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure that's strictly true, MJ... if you count RSS feeds as being 'an API' (and that's a whole other argument I don't want to start here). You should be able to access the <a href="http://feeds.delicious.com/v2/rss/tag/digitalgovuk?count=3" rel="nofollow">RSS feed for Steph's digitalgovuk tag</a> without having to sign up; although of course, that's read-only.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-1992</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steph: It&#039;s not possible for me to use the Delicious API without signing up with Yahoo, is it?  So I&#039;ll have to leave it to someone who is willing to accept their terms of use.  It&#039;s disappointing how much gov.uk-related activity is bundled to Yahoo, Adobe and other large foreign corporations with dark dealings in their pasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steph: It's not possible for me to use the Delicious API without signing up with Yahoo, is it?  So I'll have to leave it to someone who is willing to accept their terms of use.  It's disappointing how much gov.uk-related activity is bundled to Yahoo, Adobe and other large foreign corporations with dark dealings in their pasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-1971</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MJ: It is. Fancy contributing something using the Delicious API so people can contribute via the open web? Alternatively, there&#039;s an RSS feed out from the site so feel free to reuse the data in your own applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MJ: It is. Fancy contributing something using the Delicious API so people can contribute via the open web? Alternatively, there's an RSS feed out from the site so feel free to reuse the data in your own applications.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ Ray</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-1968</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this only on delicious?  No way to link other (open, social and free) bookmarking services to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this only on delicious?  No way to link other (open, social and free) bookmarking services to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Williams</title>
		<link>http://puffbox.com/2008/12/01/web-20-uk-government-catalogue/#comment-1963</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It rocks doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It rocks doesn't it?</p>
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